General Purpose Low Level Ignition Drive

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DaWaN wrote:
Dan wrote:Testing of the MC34152 ondifferent levels of supply voltage (5V, 12V, 14.4V, etc).
I do not want to be rude but....do you know the MC34152 features a undervoltage lockout at 5.8V?
No, not rude at all. Glad to hear someone else is looking at this also.
I overlooked this, as I just assumed it had the same supply voltage as the TC4427A. I have confirmed that the minimum supply voltage is 6.5V as per the datasheet.

I will confirm this in practice hopefully today :-)
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Testing has commenced! :-)
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Dan wrote:.... MC34152 (replacement for MC33152) ...
The ON site doesn't seem to list the MC34152 as an active part number (only the MC33152 and NCV33152). Also, the MC34152 is only rated 0 - 70C.

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TC4427A Test Results attached !

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TonyS wrote:
Dan wrote:.... MC34152 (replacement for MC33152) ...
The ON site doesn't seem to list the MC34152 as an active part number (only the MC33152 and NCV33152). Also, the MC34152 is only rated 0 - 70C.

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Huff,

I don't have time to comment RE: active/non-active part, but you are correct, the MC34152 is only 0 - 70C, the MC33152 is -40 -85C and the MC33152V is -40 - 125C.

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MC34152 Test Results attached!

I found by experimentation that this IC requries a minimum supply voltage of 6V to operate. 5V just isn't enough. (datasheet states a minimum of 6.5V)

This IC seems to drive a lot harder! So might be better suited for non-logic level ignitors?
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Awesome data, Dan! :-)

Summarising:
  • Driving 1 or 2 channels makes no difference: expected.
  • Using less than 50 ohm on the TC4427 is no go: expected. (1.3V @ 10ohm explains my speaker quietness LOL)
  • Using less than 50 ohm on the MC33152 works: unexpected.
  • Performance doesn't degrade appreciably at 15V compared to 12V: expected.
  • Current delivered at 5V is, best case, far from good enough for a BJT ignitor and only suitable for logic inputs: expected, known for 2 years+, hence this thread.
From that I'd say that 150 ohm might be the best choice if using the TC4427 part, as 200 may be a little weak and 100 may be a bit too high in dissipation.

Dan, how were they heat wise? I imagine cold to luke warm except for TC4427 @ 10 ohm.

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Dan, how were they heat wise? I imagine cold to luke warm except for TC4427 @ 10 ohm.

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Yeah thats pretty much correct. I didnt notice any difference to ambient until i went less than 47R. Agreed RE 150R resistor valu suggestion. Even 100R would be fine though.
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100 means we need a bigger resistor than we can stomach. 200 means our drive will be borderline. 150 is a nice compromise once you include the internal RDS on of the driver.

Are there any suitable, cost effective, 5V capable alternatives around? TC4427 is certainly a solid choice, though. I say we roll with it for this generation.

I'll add this to my TODO update list! :-)

What's next to test? :-)

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agreed, 150R it is.

also agree, TC4427A is what we will roll with.

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