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Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:38 pm
by Fred
Yes! :-)

1) Verify latency with 10k/10k/1nF input setup and 5V square wave signal on VR+ with VR- floating
2) Verify reduced latency with capacitor removed and same setup
3) Fix VR- @ 2.5V and measure latency
4) Still fixed @ 2.5V, reinstall cap and measure latency
5) Still fixed @ 2.5V with cap, reduce resistance from 10k to 1k and measure latency

I can't think of more things to try with it than that, but if you can, feel free to play around more! :-)

Fred.

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:01 am
by Dan
No probs! Will do ASAP!

Just ordered a Saleae Logic16! (3-5 days delivery)

Will keep you posted! :-)

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:35 am
by Fred
Those are cool, and quite big! :-) I look forward to seeing pretty photos of your bench + it.

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:43 pm
by Dan
sweet! glad I made a "good" choice then. The Open one you told me about just looked a little tacky. . . . LOL

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:41 pm
by Fred
Yes, we've all seen your valve cover ;-)

What we haven't all seen is the car that your Mrs has! :-o

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:07 pm
by Fred
Another thing to try is watch the floating negative pin with the second channel of a scope and see what it's doing. I have a hunch that even without the cap it is moving around a lot. Hence the suggestion of fixing it at 2.5V and watching the latency then.

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:59 am
by Dan
my Logic16 just arrived :-)

testing to follow soon!

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:33 pm
by Fred
While you're at it, how about testing 1k instead of 10k for the input resistors, with std cap and floating -ve, i bet it's still bad. Prove me wrong :-)

Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:57 pm
by Dan
My Test Results in the form of traces from my Logic16 are as follows, in order of tests requested.

1) Verify latency with 10k/10k/1nF input setup and 5V square wave signal on VR+ with VR- floating

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2) Verify reduced latency with capacitor removed and same setup

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3) Fix VR- @ 2.5V and measure latency

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4) Still fixed @ 2.5V, reinstall cap and measure latency

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5) Still fixed @ 2.5V with cap, reduce resistance from 10k to 1k and measure latency

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and a new item,

6) With cap and two 10k resistors, feed square wave into VR+ and same inverted square wave into VR-

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Re: Max Square Wave Latency

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:45 pm
by Dan
Just to be picky, I will also throw up some LA traces with actual latency measurements.

2) Verify reduced latency with capacitor removed and same setup - with actual lag time

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3) Fix VR- @ 2.5V and measure latency - with actual lag time

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4) Still fixed @ 2.5V, reinstall cap and measure latency - with actual lag time

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5) Still fixed @ 2.5V with cap, reduce resistance from 10k to 1k and measure latency - with actual lag time

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6) With cap and two 10k resistors, feed square wave into VR+ and same inverted square wave into VR- - with actual lag time

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