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Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:49 am
by Fred
http://www.fueltechems.com came across this Brazilian EMS, added to bottom of list with zero. If you know of anything missing, feel free to add it here even if you have no vote (of confidence or disgust) on it.

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:58 am
by molak
Fred wrote:http://www.fueltechems.com came across this Brazilian EMS, added to bottom of list with zero. If you know of anything missing, feel free to add it here even if you have no vote (of confidence or disgust) on it.

Pros:
Easy to setup
No noise or glitches
Nice launch - deltaRpm traction control (good for drag racing)


Cons:
No boost control
No low-z injector control
No real 3d maps ... it uses 2 2D arrays to create some sort of 3d ... Fuel vs RPM combined Fuel vs MAP ...
Expensive
Pc conection is only possible using Fueltech specific Can cable wich is really expesive ...

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:55 am
by Fred
Thanks!
molak wrote:Cons:
No boost control - no big deal
No low-z injector control - normal in 2013
No real 3d maps ... it uses 2 2D arrays to create son sort of 3d ... Fuel vs RPM combined Fuel vs MAP ... - unacceptable
Expensive - standard proprietary pricing
Pc conection is only possible using Fueltech specific Can cable wich is really expesive ... - yuck, but normal
Based on "no 3d" I'm voting for it! That's not OK.

Fred.

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:03 am
by Fred
Redline R882C / Panthera 034 added to list with zero. Any comments/knowledge welcome.

http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Fuel_I ... cu/ecu.htm
http://www.034motorsport.com/034efi-eng ... -c-22.html

Software looks pretty simplistic, and some of the features shown look to be named averagely:

http://www.034motorsport.com/034efi-eng ... 19968.html

Fred.

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:43 pm
by Fred
http://www.canems.co.uk/about.php

CANEMS added to list with zero. Feedback welcome.

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:22 pm
by Hentai

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:14 pm
by Fred
Sounds like they know what they're talking about (good sign) but looks pretty limited for a brand new product with a retail price tag.

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:52 pm
by AncientGeek
Came across this locally designed ecu called Spitronics.
What fascinated me was their use of an idle jet/main jet analogy for fuel tuning. I'm incredulous but have yet to get to look at one to see if it as bad as it sounds.
It also seems to have a series of superimposed 2D maps. No wide band support afaik.
On the plus side it is very reasonably priced and customers are not complaining.
See if I can find out more.
Manuals are online so you can get an idea.
http://www.spitronics.co.za

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:35 pm
by Fred
The standard of English on that page and in their docs is a bit shocking... "faze" instead of phase, etc.

There are some good things that illustrate understanding, similar to the above one, but some things are lacking. What surprises me the most is the "6 outputs, choose ign or fuel" just like current FreeEMS. I'd NEVER try to market the current setup to a customer, though. That's obscene :-/

And yeah, the tuning method is SNAFU, and just earned it a vote from me.

Fred.

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:49 pm
by Fred
fred. one more for your list. http://www.syvecs.co.uk/products/
Added. These look pretty serious. Still, could never use a closed source system again, period.