Standalones That You Would Never Use

Discuss MegaSquirt, VEMS and other non-free hardware and software here.
User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

http://www.fueltechems.com came across this Brazilian EMS, added to bottom of list with zero. If you know of anything missing, feel free to add it here even if you have no vote (of confidence or disgust) on it.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
molak
QFP80 - Contributor
Posts: 37
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:07 am

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by molak »

Fred wrote:http://www.fueltechems.com came across this Brazilian EMS, added to bottom of list with zero. If you know of anything missing, feel free to add it here even if you have no vote (of confidence or disgust) on it.

Pros:
Easy to setup
No noise or glitches
Nice launch - deltaRpm traction control (good for drag racing)


Cons:
No boost control
No low-z injector control
No real 3d maps ... it uses 2 2D arrays to create some sort of 3d ... Fuel vs RPM combined Fuel vs MAP ...
Expensive
Pc conection is only possible using Fueltech specific Can cable wich is really expesive ...
Last edited by molak on Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

Thanks!
molak wrote:Cons:
No boost control - no big deal
No low-z injector control - normal in 2013
No real 3d maps ... it uses 2 2D arrays to create son sort of 3d ... Fuel vs RPM combined Fuel vs MAP ... - unacceptable
Expensive - standard proprietary pricing
Pc conection is only possible using Fueltech specific Can cable wich is really expesive ... - yuck, but normal
Based on "no 3d" I'm voting for it! That's not OK.

Fred.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

Redline R882C / Panthera 034 added to list with zero. Any comments/knowledge welcome.

http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Fuel_I ... cu/ecu.htm
http://www.034motorsport.com/034efi-eng ... -c-22.html

Software looks pretty simplistic, and some of the features shown look to be named averagely:

http://www.034motorsport.com/034efi-eng ... 19968.html

Fred.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

http://www.canems.co.uk/about.php

CANEMS added to list with zero. Feedback welcome.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
User avatar
Hentai
LQFP144 - On Top Of The Game
Posts: 302
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:35 pm

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Hentai »

User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

Sounds like they know what they're talking about (good sign) but looks pretty limited for a brand new product with a retail price tag.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
AncientGeek
QFP80 - Contributor
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:54 pm
Location: South Shithole

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by AncientGeek »

Came across this locally designed ecu called Spitronics.
What fascinated me was their use of an idle jet/main jet analogy for fuel tuning. I'm incredulous but have yet to get to look at one to see if it as bad as it sounds.
It also seems to have a series of superimposed 2D maps. No wide band support afaik.
On the plus side it is very reasonably priced and customers are not complaining.
See if I can find out more.
Manuals are online so you can get an idea.
http://www.spitronics.co.za
User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

The standard of English on that page and in their docs is a bit shocking... "faze" instead of phase, etc.

There are some good things that illustrate understanding, similar to the above one, but some things are lacking. What surprises me the most is the "6 outputs, choose ign or fuel" just like current FreeEMS. I'd NEVER try to market the current setup to a customer, though. That's obscene :-/

And yeah, the tuning method is SNAFU, and just earned it a vote from me.

Fred.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
User avatar
Fred
Moderator
Posts: 15431
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Location: Home sweet home!
Contact:

Re: Standalones That You Would Never Use

Post by Fred »

fred. one more for your list. http://www.syvecs.co.uk/products/
Added. These look pretty serious. Still, could never use a closed source system again, period.
DIYEFI.org - where Open Source means Open Source, and Free means Freedom
FreeEMS.org - the open source engine management system
FreeEMS dev diary and its comments thread and my turbo truck!
n00bs, do NOT PM or email tech questions! Use the forum!
The ever growing list of FreeEMS success stories!
Post Reply