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default focus on tuning tab = cell(s) - discuss


does '-discuss' mean 'no discussion on this point' :P

I like the 'goto' feature on megatune. I also have a dyno at my disposal - so this affects my tuning style too ... in short, having manual control of focus in a cell has been desirable and used heavily. I usually have one hand on the keyboard and the other is wiggling the throttle (I do bikes) - using 'g' to snap to a cell helps me map faster than using arrow keys and navigating to a cell. using the cell autofocus feature has caused me untold frustration in (bike) tuning. I've never tuned a car w/megatune .. and I imagine my style would be different since I have both hands handy at all times.

I'll grab the latest tuner app and play around with it. thanks for your effort! If I competely missed the boat on interpreting this particular statement, set me straight :)


Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:30 pm
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You may have missed the boat, but I enjoyed reading it anyway.

The focus is on the tab when you switch, I'd expect that as soon as i hit the tab the focus is on whichever cell(s) are highlighted such that i can start to adjust them or move to a neighbouring cell etc.

what do you mean "manual control of focus in a cell" - I have no idea what you mean by this. focus = where the keyboard sends data, and as i see it, a cell is the lowest unit, how can you focus IN a cell? confused.

cell autofocus = whichever cell the engine is operating in has focus? i'd like this to be available, but can see that it wouldn't always be good, and would probably be good less than not doing it.

is "g snap to a cell" where you hit g and focus goes to wherever the engine is, but stays there even if the engine moves away?

Help a noob out :-)

The main thing is that i have the information about where the engine is visible and also where my target is for the current conditinos, visible, then i'll make good progress.

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EssEss wrote:
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default focus on tuning tab = cell(s) - discuss


does '-discuss' mean 'no discussion on this point' :P

Very funny, btw :-)

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Updated list.

note, but memory I mean ems memory...

In order of priority:
Highlight current cell that engine is in
Select and adjust N x M cells at once (create M*N packets and send them as in single mode)
Default focus on tuning tab (on opening tuning tab, move keyboard focus to last cell focused in map)
Live data to watch while tuning (right now, OEM pw and refpw)
Coloured cells depending on value to spot oddities - max = red, min = green?
Save table tune to pc and load from file to tuner/ecu (maybe just as binary packet content?)
Confirm datalog toggle button works - waiting on firmware update
Update real time var display from datalog - done
Confirm reading data from memory is working via tuner interface - done
Confirm writing to flash is working - looks OK, needs testing
Add gui interface for writing data to memory and test
Add grid gui for tuning tables - done
Populate tuning tables from EMS - done
Sync adjusted values to EMS - done
Adjust tuning table axis's
And load from memory also

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tables are now displayed consistently - fixed
burn to flash works fine - never broken
update table from ram repeatedly - fixed

important to continue - highlighted current cell and live data to tune to.

thanks aaron, most appreciated :-)

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Updated list.

note, by memory I mean ems memory...

In order of priority:
Highlight current cell that engine is in - Done, needs testing
Select and adjust N x M cells at once (create M*N packets and send them as in single mode)
Default focus on tuning tab (on opening tuning tab, move keyboard focus to last cell focused in map)
Live data to watch while tuning (right now, OEM pw and refpw) - Done
Coloured cells depending on value to spot oddities - max = red, min = green? - Done
Save table tune to pc and load from file to tuner/ecu (maybe just as binary packet content?)
Confirm datalog toggle button works - waiting on firmware update
Update real time var display from datalog - Done
Confirm reading data from memory is working via tuner interface - Done
Confirm writing to flash is working - Done
Add grid gui for tuning tables - Done
Populate tuning tables from EMS - Done
Sync adjusted values to EMS - Done
Adjust tuning table axis's

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Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:08 am
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Fred wrote:
what do you mean "manual control of focus in a cell" - I have no idea what you mean by this. focus = where the keyboard sends data, and as i see it, a cell is the lowest unit, how can you focus IN a cell? confused.

I should have used 'focus TO a cell'

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cell autofocus = whichever cell the engine is operating in has focus? i'd like this to be available, but can see that it wouldn't always be good, and would probably be good less than not doing it.

yes, this was initiallly helpful - but quickly grew annoying. I ended up just turning it off.

Fred wrote:
is "g snap to a cell" where you hit g and focus goes to wherever the engine is, but stays there even if the engine moves away?

yes - exactly. you could be 'sweeping' around the map and if something didn't/doesn't feel right, slam the g key and lift off the throttle and work on the map. the offending cell (and it's neighbors) are the cell which has focus. simply easier to me than up/up/up/right/right/up/up.

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Help a noob out :-)

dude, YOU'RE too funny.

the above is all derived from how I map .. I'm really hardcore about driveability, so a lot of my actions are off of 'feel'. I'm already crippled by only having one hand, comprehending keypress and moving around cells tends to overload me ... oh, using a mouse is impossible too, so I focus on memorizing a few key keypresses .. 'g' just happens to be one of those which I use a lot :) -- when I saw your 'cell(s)' notation, this is what originally confused me.


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No really, I'm a noob, maybe a clever noob, but a noob none the less. I'm yet to fully tune ONE car, let alone bikes and cars and N of each :-p Thanks for the explanations :-)

Aaron:

LOVE the colouring, great work, it could do with more range though, maybe sweep through multiple colours in sequence?

The cell highlighting sota works, but it would be better if :

A) It was only one or four cells at a time, as it stands, they stay white permanently after being run through once.
B) You inverted the colour/made the background white for the active cell as the white text instead of black isn't very obvious.
C) It seems to track both map and rpm incorrectly, but I'm unsure at this stage. certainly I just revved the nuts off it and it never went up to the RPM that I went to. This is after I fixed my half rpm bug ;-)

Screeny of white/lowrpm/lowkpa action :

http://stuff.fredcooke.com/tuner.rpm.fo ... .stays.png

Fred.

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Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:16 pm
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Aaron, wicked work, mostly :-)

http://stuff.fredcooke.com/tuner.idles. ... t.fine.png

Car idles! :-)

A) Highlighted box is correct RPM wise, but totally wrong load wise. That needs fixing :-)
B) SVE is wickedly wrong. When diff is 0 then it should be X / X = 1 and 1 * VE = VE = whatever VE already is. So you've done that wrong too, lol.

so close now :-)

Can you ditch the decimals from the load axis too, not required, I'll fix my fonts too, but just display the int part, please.

Fred.

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Congrats man! :-)

The system is usable! :-)

Priorities are :

1) Fix SVE
2) Think about how to keep the table synced with the device.

Will be using it in earnest tomorrow :-)

Fred.

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