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Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:13 pm
by malcom2073
This is the comment thread for my Build Thread

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:42 pm
by Peter
Welcome,
MAF - Haven't done enough research to know which one I should use with this sytem, but both are an option.
A MAF sensor input isn't supported by FreeEMS at this time.
Tachometer output from 7 pin HEI module
I don't know what you're planning on doing with this, but I don't think you can use it as your trigger wheel unless you're planning on using throttle body injection.
Narrow and wideband o2 sensors.
I don't think narrow band sensors are supported, because they aren't very useful. I use this wideband controller.
Injectors (Two banks of 4, batch fire. Sequential eventually?)
Have you seen/read this? viewtopic.php?f=54&t=1084 I'd recommend semi-sequential for 8 cylinders.
Fortunately, as a reference I can use the megasquirt documentation
I've read a little bit of their documentation, and it's pretty terrible in my opinion.

Some other things you should probably read.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1666
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=1699
http://issues.freeems.org/view.php?id=190

Good luck,
Peter

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:23 pm
by Fred
Peter wrote:A MAF sensor input isn't supported by FreeEMS at this time.
True, just log this for now, pretty easy to add support for, though.
I don't think you can use it as your trigger wheel unless you're planning on using throttle body injection.
Good point. Using that, you'll need to hack in yucky MS style untimed long injection batch/bank setup. Yuck. OR, inject 4x per revolution, which is doable, but only if your injector config is perfect. Otherwise it'll give you trouble too. Put a 12-1 16-1 20-1 24-1 on the crank and call it a day? 36-1 is usable too, but only to about 5k RPM at this time. Optimisations later will increase that by at least double likely more.
I'd recommend semi-sequential for 8 cylinders.
+1 :-)
I've read a little bit of their documentation, and it's pretty terrible in my opinion.
+1 very verbose to the point of losing you. Flaky in other areas. Misleading in others still.

Thanks Peter :-)

Fred.

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:30 pm
by malcom2073
Peter wrote:Welcome,
Thanks!
A MAF sensor input isn't supported by FreeEMS at this time.
I'm still going to plan for it in the system as a "nice to have", at least for datalogging. Who knows maybe I can help implement it (yeah right, don't think I'm THAT good)
I don't know what you're planning on doing with this, but I don't think you can use it as your trigger wheel unless you're planning on using throttle body injection.
Yeah I have to track down DeuceEFI and see what he did.
I don't think narrow band sensors are supported, because they aren't very useful. I use this wideband controller.
Sorry, I meant I had a wideband controller that outputted both. Didn't know if NB would be useful, but that's easy to not use.
Have you seen/read this? viewtopic.php?f=54&t=1084 I'd recommend semi-sequential for 8 cylinders.
That sounds like a better option, thanks for the link!
I've read a little bit of their documentation, and it's pretty terrible in my opinion.
I'm still doing my research :)
Thanks for the links, I've found those and have them bookmarked for reference :)

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:34 am
by Dan
can i also suggest taking a look at the RavAGE schematics?

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:33 am
by malcom2073
Dan wrote:can i also suggest taking a look at the RavAGE schematics?
After doing more searching, I've got that one saved from gitorious too to look at :)

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:41 am
by malcom2073
Assuming I can figure out how to open Altium Designer files...

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:08 am
by DeuceEFI
+1 on the RavAGE schematics, those are what the Jaguar board is based on :-)

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:42 am
by Fred
Can I suggest, for a third time, our friend Kenny in HK:

viewtopic.php?f=67&t=1694

He may be happy to sell you one of his spares and post it.

This assumes building a BDM first and fine pitch soldering, which a TA approach does not require.

Fred.

Re: Mikes 1987 Chevy Camaro - Comments thread

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:34 am
by Kennybug
Yes. I have spared board. :lol2:
The quality may not as good as Andy's Silver circuits boards. But they are just useable.
Each cost around USD 4 from Shenzhen.

Anybody needs them, please PM me your name and address.
I will help check the cost of air mail :lol: