Borg Warner R2S Image Repo Thread

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Fred wrote:Yes, I think most people on this site can read a turbo compressor map just fine...

I think most people on this site would also rather that they were in the upper right at peak RPM/Boost. If not, you've got something laggier than need be. Which is the entire point of the above design. Minimal sized turbos for minimum lag and maximum output in the same package. The point isn't to obtain high pressure ratios, it's to obtain high pressure at low rpm and low restriction at high rpm. It's NOT a compound setup.
All condescension aside, good compound setups have boost hit you like a brick wall at any rpm.

The entire point of a compound setup is to reduce lag and stay away from the surge line. Spinning the larger turbo up to to only 3/4 the normal speed is faster and reduces lag over spinning the same turbo up to the far right of the map.

Multi-stage turbo systems often fail because people have this incessant need to introduce check valves, diverting valves, bypass valves etc into the mix to try and eliminate ill-conceived "problems" that they see with compounding. The reality is that successful multi-stage setups simply feed one into the other with no tricks.
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Tell that to BMW and Ford who have millions of these setups driving around on the streets :-)

Also, being hit by brick walls of boost sounds horrible and life-threatening, I'd rather have just the right amount.

Say 10psi or 20psi from 2k to 10k - 20psi is compound ground, just, 10psi isn't.

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Fred wrote:Tell that to BMW and Ford who have millions of these setups driving around on the streets :-)

Also, being hit by brick walls of boost sounds horrible and life-threatening, I'd rather have just the right amount.

Say 10psi or 20psi from 2k to 10k - 20psi is compound ground, just, 10psi isn't.

Fred.
With proper boost control you control the size and speed of the brick wall with your right foot :P

Only 20 psi? Pffft weenie :lol2:
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I enjoy driving, not power. Take your 45psi engine to the nurburgring and see how long you remain alive ;-)
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Fred wrote:I enjoy driving, not power. Take your 45psi engine to the nurburgring and see how long you remain alive ;-)
That entirely depends on how big the engine is and the size of vehicle surrounding it...I suspect that if I drove a city bus with a 1L engine @ 45 psi I would die from blunt force trauma :P
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You mean around the Karussell?
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Fred wrote:You mean around the Karussell?
No, from road-ragers :P
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