EMS quote of the day competition

[Fred]

http://www.ms3efi.com/viewtopic.php?p=173#p173

If your looking for not over-complicated, then wouldn't you use a
carburetor or perhaps a horse? If you not looking for feed back from
users about what MSIII should include for features, then perhaps this
part of the forums should be closed? Perhaps I don't understand the
intent of this section of the forum.

<snip>

muythaibxr I took a look at your posts, I see many cant's, wont's,
and we don't plan to's, but I don't see much for solutions. Hopefully
as MSIII progresses I'll see it different.

Good work Mr Harvey! They need to hear these sorts of things up front and personal.

Incidentally, I'm on Ken's side here, the processor chip will cost them maybe 10us or so. To break it down into a distributed system would almost certainly drive price up not down. Plus one core will run 1 cylinder better than it will run 12 anyway, so it's not really a waste.

Fred.

[Fred]

RIP austinbob

There are dozens of ways that this could be done and they are all in hardware. Our hardware can't do that, and I don't want it to.

Well it took a while but finally I understand all this blind resistance to implementing what are obviously good features....the hardware platform you have chosen will not support them.

For the record, bob was wrong here. No CPU I know of has sufficient non volatile memory with sufficient write/erase cycles built into it. The all need an external peripheral of some sort to perform significant datalogging of any real use.

Bob didn't appreciate my lack of enthusiasm for his automatic self tune and burn to flash "idea". He has decided to leave us and not contribute. And that is OK :-) (in fact, I'm happy about it) he was typing a lot and achieving nothing much except load on me.

Fred.

[shameem]

Its not quite upto the caliber of the above quotes and it wont stand up to close scrutiny - but at a glance - i thought it was 'funny'

http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=32086

All ignition systems are 'sequential', perhaps you mean coil-on-plug ignition?

[Fred]

It made me giggle :-) giggle or think are both fine!

(ps, I "fixed" your quote tag)

[Fred]

putting the sensor just before the water enters the radiator gives best indication of runing temp

Likewise, the best place for EGT probe is just at the tip of the tailpipe

ROFL :-)

[Fred]

I get a little angry everytime I see a big wing on a car too, kinda feel like hooking a tow rope to it and driving off.

I concur!

[shameem]

http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=32179

I seem to recall posting my specs on the two injectors I picked up. I posted them to the forum, attempting to make them the permanent copy for me, as well as allowing others to view my findings. You know free as in freedom thing. Unfortunately, it appears like the posting may have fallen victim to Lance's pruning shears. I see reference to it 12 messages down here http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2576, but the link claims it doesn't exist. I hadn't written down their spec else where. Bugger. I see Lance has blocked the contact's under his member account, so I'm not sure how to contact him and see if it can be resurrected, or if it was perhaps lost in an upgrade, ect. Grrrr, that's not very open source like now is it.

jharvey,

You don't contact me regarding the administration of the forums, you contact the forum admin team.

Lance.

[Fred]

Thank you! That's gold :-) Cached.

I like the "free as in freedom" and "not very open source like is it" LOL, brilliant.

Shall we start a pool to see when it gets removed now that you posted the link here?

[Fred]

"When in doubt leave it out" - with regards corrections and enrichments etc etc, I think this is the best approach.

I googled and found this which is worth a laugh (IF you are a geek) :-)

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhenInDoubtLeaveItOut

Fred.

[Fred]

"… the Linux community seemed to resemble a great babbling bazaar of differing agendas and approaches … out of which a coherent and stable system could seemingly emerge only by a succession of miracles."

This no longer surprises me. Not applicable to EMS stuff though, so lets fix it! :

"… the FreeEMS community seemed to resemble a great babbling bazaar of differing agendas and approaches … out of which a coherent and stable system could seemingly emerge only by a succession of miracles." (Or massive effort on the part of a few coherent individuals!)

"Eric Raymond decided what piece of software he would use as a test for open source programming. He decided what features fetchmail would have, and what features it would not. He generalized and simplified its design. In other words, he defined the software project. Mr. Raymond guided the project over a considerable period of time, remaining a constant as volunteers came and went. In other words, he marshaled resources. He surely was careful about source code control and build procedures (or his releases would have been poor quality) so he monitored the project. And, most significantly, Raymond heaped praise on volunteers who helped him, which motivated those people to help some more."

That sounds quite familiar too lol. So does this :

"Torvalds was in charge of Linux. He made all major decisions, assigned subsystems to a few trusted people (to organize the work), resolved conflicts between competing ideas, and inspired his followers."

"The fetchmail and Linux projects were built by single, strong architects with lots of help -- just like the great cathedrals of Europe. Beautiful cathedrals were guided by one person, over many years, with inexpensive help from legions of workers. Just like open source software is. And, just as with open source software, the builders of the cathedrals were motivated by religious fervor and a divine goal. Back then, it was celebrating the glory of God, now it is toppling Bill Gates. (Some people think these goals are not so different.)"

LOL @ Bill Gates toppling!

Just read the whole thing here :

http://www.chc-3.com/pub/manage_themselves.htm

Fred.